The Dog's Dinner - by Ann Ridyard

Raw feeding for dogs
Any old bone...............?
Any old bone...............?
It is of great consequence which type of bones you choose to feed your dog.
Bone is a very important componant in the diet, but it works best when fed in the correct ratio to meat.
70-80% meat : 10-20% bone
Just like we have correct formulas for baking say a cake - with just enough flour to mix in with the other ingredients - imagine what would happen if we doubled or even tripled the amount of flour we added..............
- that would be one very dry cake !!
The same will happen to your dog's faeces if you don't pay attention to how much bone his diet contains.
Not only this - you will upset his bodies balance between calcium and phosphorus (SEE HERE for further reading about how the two work hand in hand)
..........This is something that you need never concern yourself with - IF you stick to the 'rules' and guidelines..........but if you don't and you stray from the safe parameters then potentially you could cause your dog a whole heap of problems
LIKE WHAT??
Well firstly for the newly swapped dog, feeding too much bone is going to over challenge his newly awakened digestive system - by feeding too much bone, you will overwhelm a system that is trying it's hardest to remember it is carnivore
Not only will he have the challenge of coping with a new diet plan............
(which must be remembered is a MASSIVE thing - it is a very sad state of affairs when dogs have to be gradually introduced to their species appropriate diet - but this is the position WE have put them in - so it's important to make this transition as easy as possible)
If you don't choose your bone addition wisely, you will make him constipated, which could then go on to cause impaction of the the bowel - and if you make a good enough job of overfeeding bone and this WILL require surgery to clear
Am I trying to put you off, or what??
............NO, I'm not roll eyes !!! I want everybody to feed their dogs a raw diet - but I want them to do it SAFELY
It's all well and good if you are feeding 'mostly RMBs' (raw meaty bones) IF your choices are actually MEATY - if they are not - then I will guarantee you are out of 'safe parameters'
Most dogs will build a tolerance for bone and then you can increase the amount you feed within safe parameters as talked about HERE
Feeding too much bone is not good for dogs who are already fed a raw diet either ......
MEAT should always make up the greater part of the diet whether your dog is newly swapped or not.
Feeding too much bone is not good for dogs who are already fed a raw diet either ......
MEAT should always make up the greater part of the diet whether your dog is newly swapped or not.
I thought it would be helpful if you could see the amount of bone which is contained in many of the popular feeding choices.
Not all bones are the same and generally the ones which come without skin attached have the highest bone content of all......
Item choice | Bone percentage |
---|---|
Chicken neck without skin | 75% bone |
Chicken carcase | 60% bone |
Chicken feet | 60% bone |
Duck feet | 60% bone |
Chicken wing | 46% bone |
Lamb ribs | 45% bone |
Pork ribs | 45% bone |
Chicken back | 44% bone |
Turkey neck | 42% bone |
Chicken neck with skin | 36% bone |
Turkey wing | 33% bone |
Chicken quarter | 28% bone |
Chicken leg | 27% bone |
Chicken thigh | 21% bone |
Turkey leg | 17% bone |
It should be pointed out that the larger the chicken, the greater the meat to bone ratio - the figures above for chicken parts are taken from broilers or fryers - these are immature birds who will be plumper when fully mature.
It is also worth pointing out that birds who are not designed to fly have a different meat to bone ratio than those that don't. They generally have heavier, denser bones.
You should also consider when looking at nutritional analysis for 'whole' birds - that they are not actually whole - by that I mean their intestines and other parts are removed prior to the analysis taking place - this would all add to the 'meat' content of a chicken.
So you can see from the above chart the choices to watch and be careful not to feed too many of.
Interestingly and as usual, I found conflicting analysis from different sites, lets take for example the innocent chicken wing - a popular choice to feed, cheap and readily available - but by feeding too many of these, you could easily go outside safe parameters.
According to that chart up there - chicken wings are 46% boney on my! but then I found a site that stated it was actually lower than this http://www.chicken.org.au/page.php?id=12
The above site shows an analysis of an average chicken wing -
Total weight | meat | skin |
---|---|---|
Chicken wing 89 grams | 30 grams | 26 grams |
So based on those figures if we add the meat and skin together this gives us a total of 56 grams per wing, if we now minus the weight of the meat & skin from the weight of the whole wing we are left with 33 grams of bone.
56 grams of meat &skin : 33 grams of bone
This knocks the theory that chicken wings are 46% bone as shown in the chart taken from the Nutrient Data Laboratory site. It actually shows the bone content being a lower content at around 38%.
Again this shows that not all wings are equal - it is worth remembering that a whole wing has 2 joints in it and 3 sections, the last section being the meatiest. If you are using wings with just one joint and two sections then your bone content will be higher, back up to 46% or more........
Assuming that we are feeding an average 25 kilo adult dog at 2.5% of his bodyweight daily - this equates to around 625 grams of food per day
If we break this down into our safe ratios this means that we should be feeding : All figures approximate........
70-80% meat : 10-20% bone
Which equates to :
437.5- 500 grams of meat : 62.5-125 grams of boneIf we are using minced meats - it is important to check the bone content - but again assuming our mince contains 10% bone - your average pound or 454 gram bag of mince would then contain around :
1. Our meal weighs 454 grams
90% or 408.6 grams of meat : 10% or 45.4 grams of bone
............Now if we add one 2 joint/89 gram chicken wing to the meal - look at the effect this has on percentages
2. Our meal now weighs : 543 grams and contains
85.5% or 464.6 grams of meat : 14.5% or 78.4 grams of bone
You can immdiately see that by just adding one wing, we have lowered our percentage of meat and increased our percentage of bone.
Lets add another 2 joint/89 gram wing to the meal.......
3. Our meal now weighs : 632 grams and contains
82.5% or 520.6 grams of meat : 17.5 % or 111.4 grams of bone
You can now see that the bone content is even higher - in fact it is getting close to our safe parameter of 20%
Scenario's 1, 2 & 3 are all acceptable and fall within the safe guidelines - obviously with scenario 1. you would need to feed the whole 625 gram allowance using minced meats. Scenario 1. is the safe option for newbies to the diet.
I just wanted to demonstrate how a little bone, goes a long way
You would think that the best bet would be to stick with minced meat and while it will serve your dog well nutritionally - if you add the other important componants, a dog should always have fresh raw bone incorporated into its diet - to benefit his teeth and gums
...........and further his enjoyment
Lets play around with those figures a little and imagine we were feeding the same dog, this time we decide to feed 3/4 of a pack of mince.
1. Our meal weighs 340.5 grams
90% or 306.45 grams of meat : 10% or 34.05 grams of bone
Obviously we do not have enough weight in food, so we decide to add 3 chicken wings - the same 2 joint/89 gram type.
2. Our meal now weighs 607.5 grams
78% or 474.45 grams of meat : 22% or 133.05 grams of bone
Whilst our meat level is acceptable - our bone level is getting to the point were they are entering the danger zone (25% or more)
I have used a 2 joint type wing for this demonstration, but if you are using the 1 joint type, with no meaty third section, then you are going to step into dangerous territory if you feed a similar weight in these type of wings to the ones in the above scenarios.
Don't be afraid of feeding bone - just be aware of the choices you make and the quantities you feed them in - stay safe
.................... If you do choose the ones with very high percentages of bone, please take care to off set this with enough meat to bring your ratios in line:
70-80% meat : 10-20% bone
References and further reading
- HOME
- WHAT IS RAW FEEDING?
- APPROPRIATE FOODS
- WHAT ABOUT FRESH FISH?
- QUICKSTART GUIDE
- TALES OF THE SWAPOVER
- RAW WEANING LITTER DIARY
- PASHA'S DIARY
- FEEDING BULL BREEDS
- RAW FEEDING DALMATIANS
- VACCINATION ADVICE
- RAW BREEDER LIST
- WIRRAL RAW FOOD SUPPLIER
- PHOTOS
- EPI AND A RAW DIET
- BLOG
- WIRRAL MINDERS/TRAINERS
- RESOURCE SECTION
- HOME
- WHAT IS RAW FEEDING?
- APPROPRIATE FOODS
- WHAT ABOUT FRESH FISH?
- QUICKSTART GUIDE
- TALES OF THE SWAPOVER
- RAW WEANING LITTER DIARY
- PASHA'S DIARY
- FEEDING BULL BREEDS
- RAW FEEDING DALMATIANS
- VACCINATION ADVICE
- RAW BREEDER LIST
- WIRRAL RAW FOOD SUPPLIER
- PHOTOS
- EPI AND A RAW DIET
- BLOG
- WIRRAL MINDERS/TRAINERS
- RESOURCE SECTION
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Your dog is a carnivore.....
Do I look like I was designed to eat this rubbish??
I am a wolf and don't you forget it !!
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